PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Accidents and Close Calls (https://www.pprune.org/accidents-close-calls-139/)
-   -   Midair Collision Near Waddesdon (https://www.pprune.org/accidents-close-calls/602032-midair-collision-near-waddesdon.html)

squidie 17th Nov 2017 15:03

Sad news, tracking the news helicopter circling overhead right now. I agree with JJJ best not speculate into what no one knows right now.

Super VC-10 17th Nov 2017 15:10

Sky news photo shows wreckage of a white helicopter with an enclosed tail rotor.

https://news.sky.com/story/plane-and...shire-11130285

RMK 17th Nov 2017 15:11

An aerial news photo just showed the helicopter wreckage; shows a white Fenestron of Eurocopter design.

EDIT:

I just had a second look at the photo (I purposely didn't say EC120 so as to not alarm anyone unnecessarily). It's not a Eurocopter; it's a very similarly-shaped "smaller" helicopter. Sadly, doesn't look good.

jayteeto 17th Nov 2017 15:12

Don’t over react children. I got what he meant. He was saying poor weather was unlikely to be involved

Airmotive 17th Nov 2017 15:18

The Mail is confirming G-JAMM

Helicopter and plane collide mid-air in Buckinghamshire | Daily Mail Online

Engineless 17th Nov 2017 15:18

Ident of fixed wing aircraft involved clearly visible on BBC News photo (not allowed to post links yet but check out the BBC News website).

Looks like the earlier poster was right. Similarly, the helicopter previously mentioned was crossing the same spot on FR24 and suddenly stopped. Very sad.

rattle 17th Nov 2017 15:19

Indeed. The first question that seems to get asked on here, or the first opinion points at weather. The visibility today was perfect so it seemed worth mentioning before anybody not local asked or looked it up.

jayteeto 17th Nov 2017 15:19

BBC photo now shows a photo of the crash site, the aeroplane reg is plain to see

jellycopter 17th Nov 2017 15:26

The BBC aerial footage is concentrating on the tail section of a Cessna (172?) which appears severed from the fuselage.

Cows getting bigger 17th Nov 2017 15:29

WACG is a 152. Helicopter is a Cabri.

dead_pan 17th Nov 2017 15:40

Heli crash site looks very contained from the pics

RiSq 17th Nov 2017 15:42


Originally Posted by oversteer (Post 9959995)
A 152, G-WACG was overhead at about the same time, unless it just stayed below coverage altitude for the remainder of its flight
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...g-wacg#f8efef7
Fingers crossed for survivors

G-WACG Confirmed from photos of paint and now the Reg from overhead.

Dragol 17th Nov 2017 15:51

From the pictures it looks like a Cabri from Helicopter Services Ltd at Wycombe air park

AnFI 17th Nov 2017 16:06

It's notamed as a DANGER Area
not a Prohibition nor a Restriction
(the danger being midair collision presumably)

there is a warning PILOTS ARE FURTHER WARNED THAT ACTION MAY BE TAKEN ATANY TIME TO IMPOSE RESTRICTIONS OF FLYING REGULATIONS UNDER ARTICLE239
and a request (understandably) not to overfly

very sad for all concerned

tmmorris 17th Nov 2017 16:09

Light aircraft and helicopter midair near Westcott
 
BBC reporting midair between a helicopter and Cessna here

Aircraft and helicopter in mid-air crash near Waddesdon - BBC News

Thread on Rotorheads here

http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/602...waddesdon.html

Cows getting bigger 17th Nov 2017 16:20

We lost one of the industries gentlemen today.

God speed

paco 17th Nov 2017 16:27

We sure did. At least I managed to share a cuppa with him yesterday.

Genghis the Engineer 17th Nov 2017 16:27


Originally Posted by oversteer (Post 9959995)
A 152, G-WACG was overhead at about the same time, unless it just stayed below coverage altitude for the remainder of its flight
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...g-wacg#f8efef7
Fingers crossed for survivors

I'm afraid that registration is also visible on a photograph on the BBC website. It's a school aeroplane, so tells us nothing about who was on board.

Bell_ringer 17th Nov 2017 16:30

Fixed wing aircraft have such a limited field of view, you don't want to end up near and beneath one. They will never see you so best to keep far away and to let them know you are around.
Hope they get to see another day, sounds like such a avoidable situation.
Training flights gone wrong?

piperboy84 17th Nov 2017 19:01

Poor folks, it's sickening how easy this can happen and the enormity of the result.


All times are GMT. The time now is 19:33.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.