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JAVELINBOY 25th Jun 2016 18:34

Light Aircraft Down near Abergavenny
 
The incident happened at about 15:25 BST between Abergavenny and Raglan.
Two passengers and the pilot have been taken to hospital. Air accident officials have also been alerted.
The road is closed, with two South Wales fire engines at the scene. Crews believed there were about 120 litres of fuel on board, which was contained as they stopped the leak.



From BBC Wales News online

DaveReidUK 25th Jun 2016 18:56

Enstone-based Warrior II G-SVEA.

znww5 25th Jun 2016 23:08

Hasn't been at Enstone for some time, was based at Coventry.

Mike Flynn 25th Jun 2016 23:27

Looks like it might have been the short strip at Hardwick.

Happy Wanderer 26th Jun 2016 09:34

Yeah, and I was instructing in it earlier in the morning. A bit shocked to say the least. 😟

airpolice 26th Jun 2016 20:00

https://www.facebook.com/jamie.richa...8464868173329/


Video of the site.

Skylark58 27th Jun 2016 08:53


Originally Posted by Jay Sata (Post 9420323)
Looks like it might have been the short strip at Hardwick.

660 m short? Really?

Mike Flynn 27th Jun 2016 09:22

I was not passing comment on the reason for the accident. For a lot of Cherokee drivers any grass strip under 800 metres with three up and reasonable fuel on a hot day needs considering. As a long time PA28 pilot I view 650 metres of grass as a short strip.

They had a lucky escape.
http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/c...em90096366.jpg

Martin_123 27th Jun 2016 12:15

Not knowing much about given accident, I can only agree that 650m of grass can indeed be short. One of the last flights I had in Cherokee we were just 2 people, but full tanks, I only got the main wheels of the grass in about 600 meters, but with that you need another 100 to stay in the ground effect and build speed before initiating climb

Mike Flynn 27th Jun 2016 16:13

The port the wing hit something hard and the damage to both wings plus bits of wood in the cowling look like they hit trees before the aircraft dropped on the barrier? One notch of flap I see.
http://i3.walesonline.co.uk/incoming.../image1JPG.jpg

Maoraigh1 27th Jun 2016 18:08

Port? Starboard looks more damaged.

Mike Flynn 27th Jun 2016 18:35

I agree there is very strange damage behind the leading edge at the starboard wingtip. However that could have been caused by whatever snapped the spar which stayed with the aircraft until the end. Perhaps a roadsign underneath?

I was refering to the port wing damage to the underside outboard of the flap. It is missing the trailing edge beyond the ailerons.

We will find out in a few months time. I just hope the pilot and passengers are OK.

phiggsbroadband 27th Jun 2016 19:59

Hardwich is near Norwich (England).


Abergavenny (Wales) is more likely, 500m x 25m Grass. The road is the A40.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itojBH03OtU

Mariner9 28th Jun 2016 07:51


Hardwich is near Norwich (England).
Indeed. And Hardwick near Abergavenny is where the incident arose.

Mike Flynn 28th Jun 2016 08:05

As Mariner9 correctly states Hardwick strip near Abergavenny is the place we are discussing.

There is no place called Hardwich in Norfolk.

However there are two airfields at Hardwick,south of Norwich.

That aside, thanks for the video.

MrAverage 28th Jun 2016 09:51

Ownership is registered as being at Enstone.

Jan Olieslagers 28th Jun 2016 17:56


Hardwick strip near Abergavenny is the place we are discussing.
Or could it perhaps be Hardwicke https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/52.0851/-3.0625 ? The English seem to have some very confusing names for their places. Confusing themselves not least ;)

cessnapete 28th Jun 2016 17:56

Re the strip condition at Abergavenny. I went in and out 3 up in a Cessna182
a couple of days before incident. Used just over half the length on departure.
Strip in great condition newly mown and firm.
Of course C182 short field performance is a lot better than the Piper.
I think some confusion in names. The local pub/ restaurant 50 metres across the road is called the Hardwick, not the strip? (great lunch as usual!)

Duckeggblue 28th Jun 2016 18:48


Originally Posted by Jetblu (Post 9423550)
Here it says a flying instructor at Brize Norton also.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...25596728,d.ZGg

Hang on, Google will tell you any number of people are flying instructors.
Are you saying that this person was in the aircraft?

Mike Flynn 28th Jun 2016 18:53

It is unfair we pass any judgement or assessment of this incident until the accident report. The important point is all three on board survived.

I was just suggesting the aircraft may have to have descended through trees to the point of impact on the road barriers.


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