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Old 25th Jun 2016, 18:34
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Light Aircraft Down near Abergavenny

The incident happened at about 15:25 BST between Abergavenny and Raglan.
Two passengers and the pilot have been taken to hospital. Air accident officials have also been alerted.
The road is closed, with two South Wales fire engines at the scene. Crews believed there were about 120 litres of fuel on board, which was contained as they stopped the leak.



From BBC Wales News online
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Old 25th Jun 2016, 18:56
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Old 25th Jun 2016, 23:27
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Looks like it might have been the short strip at Hardwick.

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Yeah, and I was instructing in it earlier in the morning. A bit shocked to say the least. 😟
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Originally Posted by Jay Sata
Looks like it might have been the short strip at Hardwick.
660 m short? Really?
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 09:22
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I was not passing comment on the reason for the accident. For a lot of Cherokee drivers any grass strip under 800 metres with three up and reasonable fuel on a hot day needs considering. As a long time PA28 pilot I view 650 metres of grass as a short strip.

They had a lucky escape.

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Old 27th Jun 2016, 12:15
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Not knowing much about given accident, I can only agree that 650m of grass can indeed be short. One of the last flights I had in Cherokee we were just 2 people, but full tanks, I only got the main wheels of the grass in about 600 meters, but with that you need another 100 to stay in the ground effect and build speed before initiating climb
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 16:13
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The port the wing hit something hard and the damage to both wings plus bits of wood in the cowling look like they hit trees before the aircraft dropped on the barrier? One notch of flap I see.
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Port? Starboard looks more damaged.
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I agree there is very strange damage behind the leading edge at the starboard wingtip. However that could have been caused by whatever snapped the spar which stayed with the aircraft until the end. Perhaps a roadsign underneath?

I was refering to the port wing damage to the underside outboard of the flap. It is missing the trailing edge beyond the ailerons.

We will find out in a few months time. I just hope the pilot and passengers are OK.
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 19:59
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Hardwich is near Norwich (England).


Abergavenny (Wales) is more likely, 500m x 25m Grass. The road is the A40.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itojBH03OtU

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Hardwich is near Norwich (England).
Indeed. And Hardwick near Abergavenny is where the incident arose.
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As Mariner9 correctly states Hardwick strip near Abergavenny is the place we are discussing.

There is no place called Hardwich in Norfolk.

However there are two airfields at Hardwick,south of Norwich.

That aside, thanks for the video.
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Old 28th Jun 2016, 17:56
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Hardwick strip near Abergavenny is the place we are discussing.
Or could it perhaps be Hardwicke https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/52.0851/-3.0625 ? The English seem to have some very confusing names for their places. Confusing themselves not least
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Re the strip condition at Abergavenny. I went in and out 3 up in a Cessna182
a couple of days before incident. Used just over half the length on departure.
Strip in great condition newly mown and firm.
Of course C182 short field performance is a lot better than the Piper.
I think some confusion in names. The local pub/ restaurant 50 metres across the road is called the Hardwick, not the strip? (great lunch as usual!)
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Originally Posted by Jetblu
Here it says a flying instructor at Brize Norton also.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...25596728,d.ZGg
Hang on, Google will tell you any number of people are flying instructors.
Are you saying that this person was in the aircraft?
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It is unfair we pass any judgement or assessment of this incident until the accident report. The important point is all three on board survived.

I was just suggesting the aircraft may have to have descended through trees to the point of impact on the road barriers.
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