Orlando Airport potential runway collision
At about 1.26 in the video a note shows saying ground speed was 60 knots. Can't see it being a fuel issue or brakes. Maybe wanting to file a report with the FAA? It will be interesting to find out why.
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If someone had put me in a potentially life-threatening situation I certainly would not want to do anything but calm down, so their decision to return to the gate was entirely correct and understandable.
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In many cases there is a mandatory stand-down following a serious incident.
Whether or not it is compulsory in this case, the crew quite likely felt rattled enough that they wanted a break anyway.
Whether or not it is compulsory in this case, the crew quite likely felt rattled enough that they wanted a break anyway.
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in the spirit of full disclosure, I’ll admit upfront that I’m a safety person regularly dealing with safety management systems…….you know, those things that all aircraft operators (and just about everyone else) are supposed to have to get their AOC and IOSA and the like bits of paper. Any good SMS should, wherever practicable, take people out of operational positions following a serious incident to enable an initial assessment of the event takes place. That assessment should consider whether anybody’s competence is in question and also whether those involved are fit to return to operational work. The same should certainly happen in ATC in this instance.
They could have been at min takeoff fuel and need a few more pounds to try again. More likely after an AA crew was roasted for crossing in front of a departing Delta flight at JFK last year and then taking off for Europe and having the voice recorder overwritten the figured they should have the CVR downloaded to show it wasn’t their fault.
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From my simple ex-ATCO POV that was just sheer incompetence on the part of Tower. But there may have been other factors at play, which the eventual report mat reveal.
In these situations do pilots listen out for potential issues?
If the pilot told to cross hears that another aircraft is cleared to take off should they, or both pick up on that situation? Or is it just too dynamic, too demanding to pick up on such things?
I feel I would be slightly concerned to hear an aircraft cleared on the runway I was crossing.
If the pilot told to cross hears that another aircraft is cleared to take off should they, or both pick up on that situation? Or is it just too dynamic, too demanding to pick up on such things?
I feel I would be slightly concerned to hear an aircraft cleared on the runway I was crossing.
I think that once cleared for take off they are focused on just that. R/T communications concerning other callsigns become background chatter. However, at least one of the crew will be keeping a lookout which is exactly what happened here.
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In these situations do pilots listen out for potential issues?
I am not a big fan of crossing runways in use but accept it as part of reality. Being on the same frequency helps building your situational awareness. I understand many of the recent near misses in the US has involved aircraft and controllers on different frequencies operating on the same piece of land. Quite concerning.
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