G-TOTN - Isle of Man
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G-TOTN - Isle of Man
Aparently there's an incident underway involving a light aircraft near Port Erin, Isle of Man - understood to be G-TOTN
www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/watch-smoke-rising-from-bradda-head-after-incident/
www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/emergency-services-dealing-with-incident-at-bradda/
S-92A G-MCGJ is in attendance at the incident as "Rescue 936"
Hopefully this isn't as serious as it would first appear
www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/watch-smoke-rising-from-bradda-head-after-incident/
www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/emergency-services-dealing-with-incident-at-bradda/
S-92A G-MCGJ is in attendance at the incident as "Rescue 936"
Hopefully this isn't as serious as it would first appear
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There is no way there were any survivors. I witnessed most of what happened bar the actual last section into the cliff. (But then heard the loud bang then could see the fire and smoke where the plane hit the cliff). It is so utterly strange what the ac was doing. I can’t understand it.
PEAT,then go and tell the Police,who are asking for witnesses....sooner rather than later,before you discuss it with `mates`...
You may be the only witness depending where you were,what you saw,heard before,after etc,if you have pictures,etc.as that will all help the AAIB,who will be there by now..
and if you have pictures..do not `upload` to any sites....out of respect for any survivors/relatives...and your conscience..
You may be the only witness depending where you were,what you saw,heard before,after etc,if you have pictures,etc.as that will all help the AAIB,who will be there by now..
and if you have pictures..do not `upload` to any sites....out of respect for any survivors/relatives...and your conscience..
Last edited by sycamore; 17th Jul 2023 at 16:46.
sycamore is right. You must preserve your own perception of the event intact without allowing it to be contaminated by the ideas of other people. Memory is very fickle!
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I did phone the police within 1 minute. Annoyingly i got thru to northern ireland police 3 times. So by the time i climbed up the hill and got a signal and got through to iom police it was 7 minutes after impact.
i did not take any photos or video. I was just concentrating on trying to phone the police.
they took my number and said they might contact me but havent so far.
i have also written down everything i can remember
i did not take any photos or video. I was just concentrating on trying to phone the police.
they took my number and said they might contact me but havent so far.
i have also written down everything i can remember
I did phone the police within 1 minute. Annoyingly i got thru to northern ireland police 3 times. So by the time i climbed up the hill and got a signal and got through to iom police it was 7 minutes after impact.
i did not take any photos or video. I was just concentrating on trying to phone the police.
they took my number and said they might contact me but havent so far.
i have also written down everything i can remember
i did not take any photos or video. I was just concentrating on trying to phone the police.
they took my number and said they might contact me but havent so far.
i have also written down everything i can remember
PEAT,well done; I think the AAIB might contact you as well.
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Each contact with the North they asked for a post code and road…told them I was up a mountain…couldn’t do anything without a post code…
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I doubt aaib will contact me. Ive heard nothing from the police. By time i got hold of them they will have had a lot of calls from people on the beach who would have seen the smoke coming over the hill and probably heard the bang.
was the aircraft based in uk? I had thought i hadnt seen that type of aircraft around ronaldsway.
just seeing a 172 type with its gear up made me think it was a bit different.
i just wish i was more observant.
i picked up very early on he was strangely low and said to my friend if that engine was going put put put i would be concerned. She just thought it was a sightseeing flight so once I thought that i pretty much didnt look at it again. Only a few other times as it turned. If i had looked as he approached the cliff i would have been able to tell the police exactly how he went in. As i had a clear view. But i just wasnt looking at that point.
was the aircraft based in uk? I had thought i hadnt seen that type of aircraft around ronaldsway.
just seeing a 172 type with its gear up made me think it was a bit different.
i just wish i was more observant.
i picked up very early on he was strangely low and said to my friend if that engine was going put put put i would be concerned. She just thought it was a sightseeing flight so once I thought that i pretty much didnt look at it again. Only a few other times as it turned. If i had looked as he approached the cliff i would have been able to tell the police exactly how he went in. As i had a clear view. But i just wasnt looking at that point.
It sadly appears to be a deliberate crash. Looking at where the aircraft hit the cliff and the strange track prior to the incident. Aircraft registered to I of M financial company.
The turn towards the cliff looks quite deliberate.
The turn towards the cliff looks quite deliberate.
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Nothing ruled in or out at this point.... but.... yeah..
It was a pressurised Centurian so an experienced pilot no doubt.The track prior to the accident appears to show some sort of contemplation prior to the crash. In recent years we have seen a number of pilots choose a similar exit.
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If there was a catastrophic failure ie a large portion of aircraft fell off i would have heard and seen it hit the water in that vicinity. I didnt. The only noise was background aircraft engine noise in the sky then massive bang. Then no background aircraft engine noise
There are lots of seabirds around that point,nesting,flocking and if one happens to hit the w/screen it could easily give you a bad experience....
Also,prevailing wind is /was S-Wly,and can get you too close with no room to manoeuvre.
Also,prevailing wind is /was S-Wly,and can get you too close with no room to manoeuvre.
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Better not to speculate until the inspection is completed. I'd hate for family to read theories of something done on purpose. It could have been a number of things.
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Hello Posters,
I've removed some posts.
I don't think anyone truly knows the circumstances of the pilot hitting the cliff. So, speculating on a possible factor, and then going on about the speculation and it's relationship to a particular plane, or train, or anything else is rather drifting the topic to no value on a pilot chat group - agreed? If someone reading here genuinely needs emotional support, certainly reach out to anyone who might help. Otherwise, let's talk about piloting... okay?
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I've removed some posts.
I don't think anyone truly knows the circumstances of the pilot hitting the cliff. So, speculating on a possible factor, and then going on about the speculation and it's relationship to a particular plane, or train, or anything else is rather drifting the topic to no value on a pilot chat group - agreed? If someone reading here genuinely needs emotional support, certainly reach out to anyone who might help. Otherwise, let's talk about piloting... okay?
Pilot DAR