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Old 6th Nov 2021, 13:47
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Brazilian King Air crash

The news says a King Air has crashed in Brazil:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainmen...uary-1.6239802

From the photo, it appears that it might have been "landed" there - not good, but better than other nearby locations? There's more to this story....
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Old 6th Nov 2021, 14:38
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The wreckage looks remarkably intact for all the occupants to have received fatal injuries.
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Old 6th Nov 2021, 15:47
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Originally Posted by snchater View Post
The wreckage looks remarkably intact for all the occupants to have received fatal injuries.

It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stoppage at the bottom. It looks like they pancaked in. They all probably died from blunt force trauma. They hit very hard.
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Similar to above, I always remember a friend who drove formula ford saying it’s not going fast that kills you its stopping fast.
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Remembering the 737 that crashed at Schipol a few years ago. Flight deck scarcely damaged, yet all three pilots died. Sudden stop.
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It appears that they hit high voltage power lines on the approach. There have been reports of concerns by other pilots of this obstacle on the approach!
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Interestingly the photo on CBC shows the right tailplane folded under the tailcone and adjacent to the left tailplane. It's almost as if the aircraft hit tail first If, as reported, there was a power line collision, that may have caused the tailplane to fold over.

NASA crash tested a number of flood damaged Navajo fuselages. Slow motion film showed the fuselage compressing vertically and inflicting head injuries on the dummy occupants, then springing back.
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https://www.sbtnews.com.br/video/278...rilia-mendonca

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Originally Posted by JimR
It appears that they hit high voltage power lines on the approach. There have been reports of concerns by other pilots of this obstacle on the approach

From the video linked above:



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Having done some searching on Google Earth, I think I have found the view of final approach there (19 44' 18.92"S 42 06'39.42"W - looking north). I accept that the wires in the video capture are not visible on Google Earth, but the image I see there looks a little more hospitable than the video image capture. I think that the videographer has used a very telephoto lens, which has the effect of compressing the apparent view, making it look more dramatic. I'd feel challenged approaching the runway imaged above in anything other than a good STOL plane, but the Google Earth view looks less alarming.

But, Google Earth shows it's a challenging runway by normal standards. and perhaps the King Air pilot just got going too slow on approach....
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I think the wires are much further south. I believe this is the accident location:

1946'06.8"S 4206'26.9"W

If you look a little south on Google maps satellite view you can faintly see the wires just south of 474. And if you go to street view on 474 you can clearly see the wires angling up to a hilltop to the west.
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Originally Posted by schwarz633 View Post
I think the wires are much further south. I believe this is the accident location:

1946'06.8"S 4206'26.9"W

If you look a little south on Google maps satellite view you can faintly see the wires just south of 474. And if you go to street view on 474 you can clearly see the wires angling up to a hilltop to the west.
Yes, same position is mentioned in this Video

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We had a fireman talk to us on fire course, claimed he was at the Staines Trident crash. He said many victims just sat there in the seat as though asleep. All vertical trauma, ripped spinal cords or inside torn.
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Pathologist talking of an airline accident in which all died from a CFIT event cited that the folks wouldn't feel a thing, the shock wave from the impact would travel faster than the nerve impulse to the brain, I think he said the nerve impulse travelled at 90mph, the shock wave eviscerating your internal organs was virtually instantaneous. All dependent on the g level experienced.
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Originally Posted by BigEndBob
We had a fireman talk to us on fire course, claimed he was at the Staines Trident crash. He said many victims just sat there in the seat as though asleep. All vertical trauma, ripped spinal cords or inside torn.

One person on board the Trident did survive the initial impact, but died shortly after reaching hospital.
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Hi, Dave. Yes, one person alive, but I believe he died in the hands of a woman helper at the scene. All very sad, either way.
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A terrible accident that should never have happened but made huge contributions to CRM. (oops sorry thread drift )
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Apologies Dave. I had the wrong information. Regards.
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