Cardiff City Footballer Feared Missing after aircraft disappeared near Channel Island
Given the layout of the Malibu, it's likely that the pilot was similarly affected to at least some extent.
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CO exposure could certainly affect pilot performance and judgement. A long time ago I was the passenger in a C150 which was later found to have a faulty muffler. I have no recollection of the pilot landing the plane, I recall riding in the right seat, and then waking up lying in the grass under the wing after we landed. The pilot said I had turned very red, and began to loose consciousness, so he landed back. Darned luck thing he did, as he was being affected too, just not as fast as I was. The certification requirement for the Piper Malibu would require that the CO concentration in the cabin air not exceed 50 PPM in flight.
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Alarms are not expensive at all, they should be required equipment. In my state (Washington) all bedrooms are required to have both smoke and CO alarms and many companies make combination alarms. They are available in AC, DC, or battery powered, some with 20 year batteries. Unfortunately I have not found any DC alarms that would announce "Carbon Monoxide alert" in English, yet another high pitched beep that you have to figure out is not as useful as I would like, but better than nothing.
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a spot on a card. in the dark? that will work well! so whilst the findings dont exonerate the legality of the flight, loss of capacity does go some WAY explain the crash
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I will leave it to wiser heads to comment on the possible cause (maintenance?), and the frequency of such occurrences.
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Alarms are not expensive at all, they should be required equipment. In my state (Washington) all bedrooms are required to have both smoke and CO alarms and many companies make combination alarms. They are available in AC, DC, or battery powered, some with 20 year batteries. Unfortunately I have not found any DC alarms that would announce "Carbon Monoxide alert" in English, yet another high pitched beep that you have to figure out is not as useful as I would like, but better than nothing.
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Recently on Discovery? Here in UK
Ironically - Discovery ran this a couple of nights back
https://www.adn.com/aviation/article...sh/2016/03/16/
PZU - Out of Africa (Retired)
https://www.adn.com/aviation/article...sh/2016/03/16/
PZU - Out of Africa (Retired)
I repeat. All internal combustion produces carbon monoxide which is lethal. Please do not suggest anything different.
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Three words; "In flight event".
I meant I wanted him to cite evidence that the aircraft wasn't maintained properly - as he stated.
Manifolds have blown in flight - leaking CO in to cockpit - not as a result of lack of maintenance, other events have occurred - in flight - to precipitate CO emissions in cockpit, etc.
It's a fool-hardy comment that feeds the bloody media that are watching this thread looking for any tit-bits to report. It's irresponsible, dis-respectful and downright un-professional.
Like I said earlier - let's go on the facts.
Advice, seemingly somewhat wasted on this thread.
I meant I wanted him to cite evidence that the aircraft wasn't maintained properly - as he stated.
Manifolds have blown in flight - leaking CO in to cockpit - not as a result of lack of maintenance, other events have occurred - in flight - to precipitate CO emissions in cockpit, etc.
It's a fool-hardy comment that feeds the bloody media that are watching this thread looking for any tit-bits to report. It's irresponsible, dis-respectful and downright un-professional.
Like I said earlier - let's go on the facts.
Advice, seemingly somewhat wasted on this thread.
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Icing was considered earlier in this thread. Now that CO poisoning has emerged, it follows that a failure in the alternate air supply may have been involved. There was an AD in Feb 2009 on the alternate air control linkage. I cannot conceive any other circumstance other than alt air selection which in such a short period of time may have led to cabin air contamination so as to prevent action such as actuating the cabin dump, switch and pull the cabin pressurisation control out, turn on vent fan and turn off cabin air recirculation fan.
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