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Cessna 414 Down in Santa Ana, California

Old 14th Aug 2018, 18:21
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3:24:53. At this point, watch his flight track. Trouble. This looks like a loss of engine(s).
What time, precisely, was his Mayday?

What jumps to mind is a pair of piston engines at eleven thousand feet for two hours, temp stabilized, being “cooled” by relatively thin air. What follows is a descent into lower level, where air is thicker, cools better, and is in a marine environment.

Shock cooling. The bane of all piston pilots. These engines need close monitoring in descent. At low power, rapidly cooling, things can break. It wouldn’t be the first time an engine gave up completely. And losing both has happened.

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Old 15th Aug 2018, 00:55
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Shock cooling? Bollox.. Descent was made at a comfortable 500 ft/min, or just a tad over, highest shown being 633. Record shows good descent planning and execution.
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Old 15th Aug 2018, 01:38
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It’s possible (engine failure due mismanagement) but I defer to your omniscience. Having been there, how did you survive?
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Old 15th Aug 2018, 01:49
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Iím not very familiar with a 414 but some of these Cessna medium size twins have complex fuel systems.
Inboard/outboard tanks, some tip tanks and some with nacelle tanks. Fuel returning to a different tank then it came from and all different capacities.
STCís can make one plane significantly different from another.
Transfer pumps that transfer at a rate which is less then the engine fuel consumption at a high power setting so yes itís possible to starve both engines of fuel while you have plenty on board.

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Old 15th Aug 2018, 03:17
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This particular 414 came standard with two tanks per wing, tip tank and an aux tank in the wing. To this could be added a locker tank. The later 414A had just an integral tank in each wing, simplifying management. The diagram is for a 310, which is a similar system to the 414. Had sufficient tip fuel not been burnt initially it was possible, if you switched to the aux, to lose fuel via the tip vent as the tank overfilled with engine return fuel, or when transferring to the tip from the locker tank. You wanted to transfer the locker tank early in the flight to ensure that the pumps worked and did transfer, bearing in mind the previous necessity to have room for it in the tip.


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Old 15th Aug 2018, 03:23
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Thanks, that’s first rate, it helps a lot.
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