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Old 12th Feb 2018, 21:50
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Bonanza OO JKM crashed around lunch time, pilot and pasanger were fatally hurt. Does anybody know what happened?
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Weather could be a factor. There were showers with hail reported in the area, temperature 3C, dewpoint 0C.
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Accident Beechcraft F33A Bonanza OO-JKM, 12 Feb 2018
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Does a Bonanza F33A have a blackbox?? The Belgian authorities are going to check the blackbox ???
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Only commercial airliners carry flight data recorders, although there may have been a bit of navigation kit on board that stores data.
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thats what I thought, thx
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There may be valuable engine information in the engine analyser if the aircraft had one. In mine, every six seconds all parameters, temperatures, fuel flow are recorded and stored in memory.
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From the photo in that accident report, looks like a classic stall / spin.
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It happened about 10NM from destination. There were supposedly some showers with hail around.
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I notice in the photo that the elevator trim tabs appear to be all the way down, which implies maximum up-elevator trim. Whether this happened before or after the accident remains to be seen.
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 09:07
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Originally Posted by vandereydt View Post
Bonanza OO JKM crashed around lunch time, pilot and pasanger were fatally hurt. Does anybody know what happened?
Seems a fuel management problem, when the engine stops at 1000ft it takes some seconds to realize why. Changing tank and a/c descending at 100 kts best glide do not leave you much margin!
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Everything seems to point to a fuel management problem so far.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 01:50
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Everything seems to point to a fuel management problem so far.
aka running a tank dry?
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It is an aircraft with tiptanks with the older style four-way fuel selector. From what I heard there were some problems with the refueling station at the departure airport; the pilot may have thought to have enough fuel for the trip, maybe he had, but not in the right place or he lost track of it. Very sad.
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