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Force landing, and they all walked away.

Old 9th Sep 2017, 14:56
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Force landing, and they all walked away.

Forced landing at Salford, Manchester Plane crashes yards from M62 just after take-off from City Airport in Salford - Manchester Evening News
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Old 9th Sep 2017, 17:25
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Taken off in poor conditions
with three passengers on board ?
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Old 9th Sep 2017, 17:39
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I'm certain everyone here is relieved that this accident only resulted in bent metal and hopefully light injuries........

But.... Take a look at this advert...

Flight Share ? Shares for sale | City Airport and Heliport

Then notice the registered owner on "G-INFO"

The Turks and Caicos Islands ?? A bit exotic for Eccles and Salford

Very sad that the operator is now two Cherokees down in 4 years.
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Old 9th Sep 2017, 17:55
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More like 4!
Airfield was closed yesterday due to being waterlogged, Glad to hear every one is ok.
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"Airfield was closed yesterday due to being waterlogged, "
The Newspaper did say the plane "ditched" in the field.
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Old 10th Sep 2017, 00:20
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Force landing, and they all walked away.
A long time ago, an instructor transformed my attitude towards forced-landings when he told me:
When the engine fails, the aeroplane now belongs to the insurance company. Your objective is to walk away from the crash!
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Old 10th Sep 2017, 08:25
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Originally Posted by funfly View Post
with three passengers on board ?
Plus a 100+ litres of fuel that leaked in to a field.
From a WET grass runway.
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Clicking that link, just now(09:30z 10/09) states that the advert is 'Pending, prior to approval' (or very similar). That suggests it has been pulled by someone, given the a/c in question is now u/s!
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Old 10th Sep 2017, 08:44
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Clicking that link, just now(09:30z 10/09) states that the advert is 'Pending, prior to approval' (or very similar). That suggests it has been pulled by someone, given the a/c in question is now u/s!
Doesn't appear to be archived but from memory yesterday it asked for a chunk of money up front (2K ish) then you could fly X (20 ish) hours.

The name of the person involved would perhaps be familiar to people in the north-west.
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Robert Murgatroyd is the owner of the Pa-28 involved in the Barton incident.

Google 'G-BBBK' and 'G-BBEF' for details of two previous fatal accidents to aircraft owned by Murgatroyd - he doesn't come across as a particularly responsible operator.
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The name of the person involved would perhaps be familiar to people in the north-west.

Who I understand was also the pilot !
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And familiar to the CAA too.

The next sentence will contain the words 'book' and 'throw'.
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Some people are made of teflon !
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 15:04
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The name of the person involved would perhaps be familiar to people in the north-west.

Who I understand was also the pilot !
wkipedia have this, note the date it ceased operating airline services! and is this the same company?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britis...hWest_Airlines
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 14:55
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Non-locals might have missed seeing this:-
Man arrested following plane crash in Salford - Manchester Evening News
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Originally Posted by India Four Two View Post
A long time ago, an instructor transformed my attitude towards forced-landings when he told me:
"When the engine fails, the aeroplane now belongs to the insurance company. Your objective is to walk away from the crash!"
Unless it is a literal ditching.
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Old 23rd Nov 2017, 20:55
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Originally Posted by nevillestyke View Post
Unless it is a literal ditching.
My only (partial) engine failure was in a floatplane
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'Greedy' pilot, 52, is found guilty of 'grossly overloading' his plane with birdwatchers to make a 1,000 profit on flight to Scottish island of Bara that left three injured when it crashed
  • Robert Murgatroyd, 52, agreed to fly three birdwatchers to a Scottish island
  • The pilot collected 500 each from the three men before the doomed flight
  • Murgatroyd could not fly passengers for reward under the terms of his licence
  • He will be sentenced for breaches of air law at Manchester Crown Court
The court also heard Murgatroyd has a previous conviction from 2014 for flying an aircraft without a valid ceritificate of airworthiness.

He denied endangering the safety of a person and an aircraft, flying without the relevant licence, failing to comply with insurance regulations plus three other charges under the Air Navigation Order 2016 - but it took a jury at Manchester Crown Square just under three hours to find him guilty of all counts.

Murgatroyd will be sentenced on March 15, and was granted bail, but prohibited from piloting or co-piloting any aircraft. He was also ordered to live and sleep at his given address.

Judge Michael Leeming told him: 'The counts are significantly serious to cross the custody threshold, and the likelihood is you will receive a lengthy custodial sentence.'
His weight and balance calcs were interesting.
'He accepted that he had not weighed the passengers or asked them for their weights. But he worked on the principle that if they fitted through the door then they could fly with you.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-plane.html
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 00:07
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The Daily Mail says cost sharing the pilot must not be the owner of the plane. Is that right? I think if not the owner then the normal hire fee can also be shared. If the owner only direct costs can be shared.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 05:03
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R v. Murgatroyd

No AAIB report?
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