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Catalina accident at Lelystad, 15-8-17

Old 15th Aug 2017, 13:27
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Catalina PH-PBY has suffered a nose wheel up landing at Lelystad. Apparently no injuries amongst the 4 crew and 14 passengers. Aircraft doesn't appear to have suffered too much damage. Sources in Dutch.

Vliegtuig met neus op baan geland op Lelystad|Binnenland| Telegraaf.nl

Historisch vliegtuig Catalina maakt noodlanding op Lelystad Airport - Nieuws

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This may be a stupid question but why didn't they land on water? Could they not raise their gear?
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I was wondering that too. Wheels up, land on water, recover aircraft with a dolly.

That said, it was an excellent landing though, and the above is in no way to be taken as criticism of the pilot. I wasn't there, so won't condemn them for their actions.
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Apparently the nose wheel doors may have been partly opened - as you may recall, a passenger died when the old Plane Sailing Catalina sank in The Solent while landing in 2000 - the doors failed and the inrush of water ruptured a bulkhead.

An excellent landing indeed and hopefully minimal damage.
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Yes, Treadigraph, I remember that one. Fourteen pax on board may have had an influence on the decision to land at Lelystad.
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Well given the weather it was almost a water landing
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Treadigraph,

2 people died in the Catalina crash in the Solent, the Mayor of Southampton and an airline worker from Eastleigh airport.

The Catalina has 2 pins that lock the front of the nose gear doors in place through a bulkhead. Those used as regular water bombers were often modified to have a 'flag' window that would be visible to the crew as a final check that the door pins were in place before operating on water. The original Plane Sailing one was never a water bomber so did not have this mod.

A water landing with possibly unsecure nose gears doors would not be a good idea.
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In the Southampton accident, IIRC the root cause was the corrosion failure of one of the two torque tubes that rotate to open/close the nose wheel doors. Corrosion was caused by an unauthorised mod made back in the mists of time, viz a cork placed in the end of the tube, ostensibly to prevent the ingress of water, but additionally preventing its egress.

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My dad was part of the crew on that flight, fortunately got out
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