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2 small planes crashed onto shopping center area within control zone St-Hubert CYHU

Old 17th Mar 2017, 18:05
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2 small planes crashed onto shopping center area within control zone St-Hubert CYHU

2 small planes crashed onto large shopping center area within control zone of St-Hubert CYHU airport, near Montreal. One plane onto shopping center's parking lot, and another onto the roof. 2 people involved.

EDIT: Large shopping center evacuated; at least partly. 1 pilot probably dead in parking lot. Status of other pilot on roof not yet known. Latest 1 dead 3 injured. Probably the 3 injured were on the roof.

Collision entre deux avions à Saint-Bruno | TVA Nouvelles

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/at-least-...runo-1.3329546

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...2017-1.4029836

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Apparently the communications are available on liveatc. Apparently, one of the planes was not replying to Tower warnings and directions.

Select CYHU Tower
https://www.liveatc.net/archive.php?m=cyul_app

EDIT: Latest 1 pilot dead, 1 pilot injured, no passengers, and 2 witnesses in shock.

EDIT2: happened at or prior to 12:39 pm local eastern time. 2 C-152.

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The wrongly descending pilot from 1600 ft ASL (call-sign PNP), who didn't reply to ATC communications, is probably the one who survived, and crashed onto the roof onto natural gas lines. The other cleared at 1100 ft ASL (call-sign C-FGOI) died in the parking lot.

Also, some parts of the school all over Quebec were closed this weekend; e.g. Chicoutimi, and probably St-Hubert.

Also, parts of news article below:

EDIT: added PNP, and C-FGOI

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"Flight school stumped by St-Bruno plane crash that killed a Chinese student pilot

Cargair, the school that was training two pilots who crashed mid-air over a South Shore mall Friday, does not think mechanical problems, the weather or language barriers were factors in the accident.

The students — both from China — were studying to be airline pilots. One of them died, the other was seriously injured. There were no passengers on the planes, both of which had taken off from the nearby St-Hubert Airport.

One of the planes ended up in Promenades St-Bruno’s parking lot, the other on the mall’s roof.

... He said both pilots spoke English well and the control tower was communicating with them in English.

A recording of the communication between the air-traffic control tower and one of the planes indicates that seconds before the collision, one of the pilots did not respond to four attempts to contact him about his altitude.

The planes crashed after one of the pilots inexplicably changed altitude, said Adams, who has been a pilot for 20 years.

Friday was a sunny day but Adams said he does not think the sun played a role in the collision.

“When you’re at the same altitude, yes the sun can be a factor but if a pilot is descending or ascending and not following instructions from the tower, then it’s not a question of the weather but of the piloting.”

... The 21-year-old man piloting the plane that landed in the parking lot died, while the other pilot, a 23-year-old man, was seriously injured. Doctors do not fear for his life. ...

The man who died had a student-pilot permit and had 40 hours of flight time after seven months at the Cargair pilot academy, Adams said.

The injured man had a private-pilot license and had 140 hours of flight time after a year at Cargair.

... They were both flying Cessna 152 aircraft, ...

Cargair, which describes itself as Canada’s largest private pilot school, instructs about 150 pilots every year for airlines in China, where training facilities can’t keep up with demand, Adams said.

The flight training, which Cargair has been providing to Chinese students for more than a decade, takes about 15 months, with pilots graduating with a commercial license that requires a minimum of 200 hours of flight time.

Chinese students are taught in English.

“It’s clear that language comprehension was not an issue here, both students spoke English and met the language requirements for the training,” said Adams, who heard part of the recording of the communication between the tower and the pilots.

Investigators are to meet with the surviving pilot as well as the pilots’ instructors. They will also review the tower-pilot communication, as well as radar data showing the planes’ flight paths.

Cargair, which also has facilities in Mirabel, Trois-Rivières and Saguenay, trains about 250 pilots a year. The company, founded in 1961, has 130 employees and owns 60 planes used for training.

Promenades St-Bruno, which closed after the accident occurred early on Friday afternoon, reopened on Sunday morning."

Flight school stumped by St-Bruno plane crash that killed student | Montreal Gazette
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