Adam Air B737-400 fatal crash January 2007
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Looks as if weather might indeed have been a factor. Check out the satellite image that's been put up on http://www.openatc.com
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Latest from BBC website http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/6223825.stm
A very sad start to the New Year RIP all onboard and condolences to all families
A very sad start to the New Year RIP all onboard and condolences to all families
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Very sad indeed.
However according to Skynews there are some survivors.
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Plane wreckage found
Search teams have found the wreckage of a Boeing 737 that went missing in wild weather over Indonesia.
An Indonesian official has told a local radio station at least 90 people have been killed, while the remaining 12 on board survived.
He said the plane was 'destroyed' and had crashed in a mountainous region in west Sulawesi province.
The plane was carrying 102 people, including 11 children, when it sent out two distress signals while flying from Surabaya on the island of Java to Manado on Sulawesi.
The Surabaya airport duty manager says there were no technical problems with the plane when it took off.
The area north of east Java is subject to violent storms, experiencing high winds since last weekend.
The Department of Foreign Affairs is trying to determine whether any Australians were onboard.
However according to Skynews there are some survivors.
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Plane wreckage found
Search teams have found the wreckage of a Boeing 737 that went missing in wild weather over Indonesia.
An Indonesian official has told a local radio station at least 90 people have been killed, while the remaining 12 on board survived.
He said the plane was 'destroyed' and had crashed in a mountainous region in west Sulawesi province.
The plane was carrying 102 people, including 11 children, when it sent out two distress signals while flying from Surabaya on the island of Java to Manado on Sulawesi.
The Surabaya airport duty manager says there were no technical problems with the plane when it took off.
The area north of east Java is subject to violent storms, experiencing high winds since last weekend.
The Department of Foreign Affairs is trying to determine whether any Australians were onboard.
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List of Crew and Pax are published on their website: http://www.flyadamair.com/
A satellite image (01Jan07 0733UTC) can be found also here:
http://www.nea.gov.sg/cms/mss/jpg/ai07.jpg
Very sad start indeed and my deepest condolences to all families
FC
A satellite image (01Jan07 0733UTC) can be found also here:
http://www.nea.gov.sg/cms/mss/jpg/ai07.jpg
Very sad start indeed and my deepest condolences to all families
FC
Twelve survive plane crash in Indonesia
By John Aglionby in Jakarta
Published: January 2 2007 04:23 | Last updated: January 2 2007 04:23
Rescue teams on Tuesday morning were struggling to evacuate the 12 survivors of a plane crash from the remote, rugged mountains on the Indonesian island of Sulawesi.
Authorities said the other 90 people on board the Adam Air flight which crashed in bad weather on Monday afternoon in Palewali district, West Sulawesi province, had died. Smouldering wreckage and corpses were strewn across quite a wide area, Ali Bahal, the district chief, told local radio.
The latest reports from the crash site that weve received are that 12 people survived, Capt. Hartono, an Adam Air official, told the Financial Times. Theyre in a bad condition and were trying to evacuate them as soon as possible. But the weather is too bad for helicopters to land so were probably going to have to take them out by land.
Rescuers reached the crash site, some 250km north of Makassar, the main city in southern Sulawesi, at 6am on Tuesday. Access to the site was restricted to two-wheel vehicles and was out of mobile phone range. Capt. Hartono said it would take at least five hours to get the survivors to hospital...
...Capt Hartono said the planes black box had yet to be found and that it was too early to determine the precise cause of the crash...
By John Aglionby in Jakarta
Published: January 2 2007 04:23 | Last updated: January 2 2007 04:23
Rescue teams on Tuesday morning were struggling to evacuate the 12 survivors of a plane crash from the remote, rugged mountains on the Indonesian island of Sulawesi.
Authorities said the other 90 people on board the Adam Air flight which crashed in bad weather on Monday afternoon in Palewali district, West Sulawesi province, had died. Smouldering wreckage and corpses were strewn across quite a wide area, Ali Bahal, the district chief, told local radio.
The latest reports from the crash site that weve received are that 12 people survived, Capt. Hartono, an Adam Air official, told the Financial Times. Theyre in a bad condition and were trying to evacuate them as soon as possible. But the weather is too bad for helicopters to land so were probably going to have to take them out by land.
Rescuers reached the crash site, some 250km north of Makassar, the main city in southern Sulawesi, at 6am on Tuesday. Access to the site was restricted to two-wheel vehicles and was out of mobile phone range. Capt. Hartono said it would take at least five hours to get the survivors to hospital...
...Capt Hartono said the planes black box had yet to be found and that it was too early to determine the precise cause of the crash...
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View from the Ground....what a feeble politically correct posting.
In the field of aviation, the highest safety values must be IMPOSED on all countries. International air travel covers almost all countries. We are not talking about motor scooters in Thailand. Or politics. THis is about professional standards, and their regulation.
Pprune.org is a professional pilot's forum. Not an open forum for folk with opinions but no expertise. Evacuate! Evacuate! Unfasten Your Seat Belt and Get Out!
Incidentally, IATA make much of their income from their well-respected safety audits and monitoring of most intenational carriers. They are an important and relevant body in the field of Air Safety. As indeed are ICAO.
In the field of aviation, the highest safety values must be IMPOSED on all countries. International air travel covers almost all countries. We are not talking about motor scooters in Thailand. Or politics. THis is about professional standards, and their regulation.
Pprune.org is a professional pilot's forum. Not an open forum for folk with opinions but no expertise. Evacuate! Evacuate! Unfasten Your Seat Belt and Get Out!
Incidentally, IATA make much of their income from their well-respected safety audits and monitoring of most intenational carriers. They are an important and relevant body in the field of Air Safety. As indeed are ICAO.
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Passengerlist can be found here, http://www.flyadamair.com/info/admin/fullnews.php?id=1
Itīs claimed that 3 of the passengers where US citizens, the rest seem to be
Indonesian? Crews name can also be found on the homepage.
May the unfortunate ones rest in peace.....
Itīs claimed that 3 of the passengers where US citizens, the rest seem to be
Indonesian? Crews name can also be found on the homepage.
May the unfortunate ones rest in peace.....
Survivors? Wow, thats amazing.
I just hope that this isn't one of those cases where a passenger aircraft has continued to operate without important bits of kit - like serviceable weather radar. Weather around that part of the world can be sudden and vicious.
Reminds me of the time I was told to operate from Europe to Malaysia via Sri Lanka in a military transport jet. It didn't have an APU so I asked if it was possible to get a completely serviceable jet, even if it meant a delay. Alternative offererd had u/s weather radar. As it was monsoon season I opted for the original aircraft. The buffoons who allocate these things don't have a bloody clue ...........
I just hope that this isn't one of those cases where a passenger aircraft has continued to operate without important bits of kit - like serviceable weather radar. Weather around that part of the world can be sudden and vicious.
Reminds me of the time I was told to operate from Europe to Malaysia via Sri Lanka in a military transport jet. It didn't have an APU so I asked if it was possible to get a completely serviceable jet, even if it meant a delay. Alternative offererd had u/s weather radar. As it was monsoon season I opted for the original aircraft. The buffoons who allocate these things don't have a bloody clue ...........
I'm in one of those moods
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.. assuming the report of survivors is correct, one might hypothesize slow speed, minimal descent rate just prior to ground contact!
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.. weather engines .. ??
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.. very sad start to 2007
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.. weather engines .. ??
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.. very sad start to 2007
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You missed the point I think! Yes, there is a lot of water to go under the bridge yet so it will be some time before we know, with any clarity, what happened.
How you surmise a problem with my attitude is interesting. All I said was what I hoped the accident WASN'T the result of. The rest is purely a personal illustration.
And it is 'sucks', by the way .......
You missed the point I think! Yes, there is a lot of water to go under the bridge yet so it will be some time before we know, with any clarity, what happened.
How you surmise a problem with my attitude is interesting. All I said was what I hoped the accident WASN'T the result of. The rest is purely a personal illustration.
And it is 'sucks', by the way .......