That's very well said Shep. Thank you. Every pilot in this airline has a decision to make: whether to stand up for something, or get down on their knees. One choice will always result in a better overall life experience. The other will ensure a life lived in fear and loathing. If we allow this company to continue unaffected through this holiday season, then please don't complain about management anymore. At that point, the only person you will need to blame is yourself. Every Captain at the very least should be demonstrating to this company that they have gone too far. Every FO and SO should be demonstrating to this company that they expect better conditions and a package that will allow them to settle in HK and live properly, comfortably and raise a family, as well as plan for retirement. If each of us takes action now, it will result in this management changing course. If not, then why on earth should they improve a single thing. In fact, it will encourage them to cut even further. There is no choice. Stand up for your profession or admit defeat and see any hopes of a proper career be crushed forever.