Originally Posted by
Bus Driver Man
Another possibility is that with all the different approaches created by EK, they might have selected the wrong one and/or the wrong minima. The RNAV Visual requires a minima of 300' to be entered in the FMS according the EK procedures. Wrong in my opinion, because this can also create the false impression that you don't need to be visual until 300' on final. It is still a visual approach, but full automation is standard at EK.
If they selected the RNAV Visual instead of the Canarsie approach, selected 300' as minima and thinking that they were flying an instrument approach, then that might explain why they ended up so low.
Originally Posted by
WB1900
This is all a total mix up of everything because of this homemade APPR
ATC will never issue that APPR if the WX min is too low
IT IS STILL A VOR with 800Min and a VISUAL SEG FROM DYMHL nothing else
the first guys flew it with FLS - big failure - but induced by SOP as A380 is flying RNAV APPR with FLS - except RNAV RNP, which are not allowed at this time.
From the LiveATC.net tapes cited earlier:
EK5KP is cleared for the VOR 13L on approach control. They switch to tower on 119.1 and are cleared to land on 13L.
EK acknowledges 'Cleared to land 13L
visual Emirates 5KP'.
Force of habit or were they cleared for the VOR but had the 'homemade visual' in the box?