And one more thing: many of my ex-colleagues in C and T are just waiting to submit their resignations the first confirmed attack on our housing, pension or leave is received. You go down that route at your peril. None of us are willing to be seen to be part of a management attempt to not only ruin the careers of those here, but they are not willing to play the patsy when their own lifestyle and remuneration is attacked. You really must hold us in contempt to think we would play your game after that has happened. Drown in your own delusion. You and the rest of your pathetic Swire mafia. Oh, and the comment about being 'blacklisted'...you make me laugh. Every airline in the world is desperate for experienced crew. The only thing they will do is roll out the red carpet for everyone of us who applies. The only warm fuzzy will be the satisfaction in seeing you and your mob being swept into the dustbin of management history as the incompetent failures that you are. That outcome is not in doubt.