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Old 4th Nov 2017, 18:08
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West Coast
 
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The bulk of the SIDS/STARs I fly in the US are climb/descend via. There’s a learning curve to be sure, but I have no issue with them. You simply have to listen closely to the phraseology.

A lot of the noise is pilots b!tching about change which is never accepted without appropriate amounts of complaining first.
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