Ref post #17......
Way back when in MCT, I recall the Paulings Carvair getting airborne (OK a contradiction in terms) one summers day. The aircraft used to fly up and down the coast for some very considerable time to gain height before setting course overhead. On one occasion, I completely forgot the Carvair. All sorts of traffic in and out for some 15-20 mins, then the Carvair reported setting course overhead! Not my proudest moment and one re-lived many times in the safety and human factor courses I deliver.
Also remember the Bristol Frighteners at SOU.They always seemed to perform very steep turns onto 20 final.