Thanks all. Common sense suggests the CBIR will take precedence now though looking at ATO's the IR(A) and associated course still seems to be what most deliver. That said - if anyone is on here that has experience of gaining a frozen ATPL via the CBIR route (ie no interest in number or structure of exams for the PPL CBIR or theoretical exam procedures in Holland to avoid any thread creep) in any info would be great - eg what experience base did you start from and how many hours did it take to qualify?