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Old 14th Oct 2017, 09:08
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BluSdUp
 
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Ahhhh! It is refreshing to wake up with fresh coffee, a good zigar and the sun out for a change up here at 60 north.
And some common sense on Pprune. Thanks RAT.

I do not want to speculate on this particular video.

But here is a few observations about the 738-800 with 26 000lbs engine in general and short runways.
Assume runway limited no obstacles: 2011 meter.
Try flap 5 standard: no go
Try flap 15 : just possible if wind is the same in 15 min when rotating.
Try flap 25: Margin for a say 5 kt wind change.
If 25 is tight. do a bleeds off that gives you some 1200kg more to play with.

Now as we all know since we have done so many F15 and F 25 takeoffs, the correct V1 and Vr callouts are critical.
And the proper rotation rate even more, as tailstrike is not an issue : get the 3 degrees going . Mind you to a lover initial pitch.

I have to say we are generally spoiled with plenty of runway and or performance. I see slow rotation quite often on long runways and do not mind.
Doing my initial years on a 1070 meters runway with a close in obstacle at one end and a cliff at the other end I appreciate the need for proper performance.

The I-pad generation , I am not so sure.
" Cpt, Ipad says NO"
" Take away 100kg for taxi!"
" Splendid, now it says GO"

I was on the jumpseat with NOR the other day.One of the options I like is the automated V1 call.

I did get a tad crossed the other day when my FO forgot to call V1- Rotate on a short runway.
No drama , and he is not going to do that again.
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