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Old 13th Oct 2017, 23:17
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gulliBell
 
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MEDIA RELEASE - RYAN AEROSPACE / PFC Helicopter Simulator receives FAA approval / certification

A cheaper simulator option over a $20M CAE or Thales FFS.

The PFC Helicopter Simulator can be used for the following credits:

To name just a few, these credits include:

Instrument Proficiency Check, per FAA-S-8081 (latest version)
Instrument Rating: Up to 20 Hours § Private Pilot Certificate: Up to 2.5 Hours
Commercial Certificate: Up to 50 Hours
Airline Transport Pilot Certificate: Up to 25 Hours
Approved for use under the Part 141 Appendices as follows:

Up to 2.5 hours toward the total Private Pilot flight training time requirements
Up to 40% towards the total Instrument Rating flight training time requirements
Up to 20% towards the total Commercial Pilot flight training time requirements
Up to 25% towards the total Airline Transport Pilot flight training time requirements
Up to 5% towards the total Flight Instructor flight training time requirements
Up to 5% towards the total Flight Instructor Instrument flight training time requirements
Private Pilot Airplane Single Engine or Multi-Engine Class Rating Course - Up to 3 hours towards the flight training time requirements
Commercial Pilot Airplane Single Engine or Multi-Engine Class Rating Course - Up to 11 hours towards the flight training time requirements
Airline Transport Pilot Airplane Single Engine or Multi-Engine Class Rating Course - Up to 6.25 hours towards the flight training time
Up to 25% towards the total Combined Private Pilot Certification and Instrument Rating flight training time requirements

The CAE and Thales FFS you can do the whole pilot training course and get a helicopter pilots license and instrument rating without ever having flown a real helicopter. Which is why they cost $20M to get the simulation required to replace a real helicopter.
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