I say it again, especially in the wake of Air Berlin & Monarch which are both strong union airlines: the unions did not make to company go bust; the management did. The same was true at Sabina (via Swissair). etc. etc. Unions want a long & prosperous career for their members. Managers want a quick buck bonus and move on. Pilots embark on a done company 35year career, hopefully. Find me any CEO/MD who can say that. RB at Virgin aside.