Bell_ringer unpacked it pretty good. The B412 prang mentioned I think was in Indonesia, pilot flew into a mountain in bad weather. A completely different scenario to Robinson helicopters falling out of 8/8ths of blue sky. I'm not sure what sort of conclusions @aa777888 might come to from closer examination of accident data, or the purpose in doing this. From my perspective, I'm perfectly happy to fly a B206, B212, B412 or any other Bell helicopter. No way would you get me in any flavour of Robinson helicopter.