The Norwegian conditions (OSM) for Europe are available on line: basic 7700, per diem/allowance 1300, flight pay 14 euros per hour and some other bit and pieces, so basically 10,000 euros a month. Be interesting to hear where Ryanair is currently against that benchmark for a permanent contract. I cannot see how getting this information into the public domain can be a bad thing in terms of driving up everyone's pay and conditions. O'Leary has promised after all to match Norwegian. Of course if he is already paying more....