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Old 4th Oct 2017, 17:41
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SansAnhedral
 
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First of all, Jack, congratulations for copying and pasting Carlton Meyer's propaganda list (with ZERO sources, particularly for the dubious repeated claims of "misreported") for the umpteenth time. Do either of you happen to have the full list of all the other "unreported" or "misreported" incidents for the -60, -53, or -47?

Secondly, the -53 comparison below does not compute and again, you're parroting some very dubious reporting from the vehemently anti-Osprey Ryuku Shimpo. Also notice they are showing class A thru D incidents....not "lost aircraft". A class D accident is damage $2k to $50k or even an injury from cutting a finger! To frame an aircraft safety record this way is textbook spin.

Originally Posted by Jack Carson
During the period FY 2010-2012 in Afghanistan the V-22 and the CH-53E each lost 8 aircraft. The CH-53E fleet flew 19400 hour during this period resulting in a mishap rate of 41/100000 flight hours. During the same period the V-22 flew 724 flight hours resulting in a mishap rate of 1105/100000 flight hours.
http://www.navair.navy.mil/index.cfm...sStory&id=4514

The V-22 Joint Program Office announced that the V-22 Osprey surpassed 100,000 flight hours in February (2011) while supporting combat operations in Afghanistan.

During the past decade, the MV-22 has the lowest Class A mishap rate of any currently fielded tactical Marine Corps rotorcraft, according to Naval Safety Center records. The aircraft’s reduced susceptibility, lower vulnerability and advanced crashworthiness have made it the most survivable rotorcraft ever introduced.

MV-22 and CV-22 Ospreys amassed the flight hours performing combat operations, humanitarian assistance, training, and test and evaluation missions. Almost half of the total hours were flown during the last two years. The milestone marks the latest significant achievement for a program that has had 14 successful combat and humanitarian deployments in theater and aboard ship since the Osprey was first declared operational in 2007.
Also...50,000 hours from 2009-2011 and only 724 flown in Afghanistan from 2010-2012? That doesn't pass the smell test. I can't seem to find the referenced data from Naval Safety center showing this value either. Shockingly, Ryuku Shimpo takes a book out of old Carlton's book and provides ZERO references or links to data...
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