Lets be totally honest here - the pilots voted for a pay deal and then turned against their own union. they split from BALPA and formed the PPU. Four years later and their main achivement is to continue to deny that they ever voted yes to their own deal. Four years of beating a drum about union recognition and they have failed. in VA there is now a split pilot workforce and a toxic environment. BALPA continue to be the only union that negotiates for the pilots and VA have some of the best pay scales and Ts&Cs in the UK. The agreements between airline and the union are not transferable so why would it be in the interest of any UK pilot workforce to split their own bargaining group. Answers on a postcard and sent to a boat offshore around Malta somewhere. BALPA may not be perfect but a union that sets out to undermine collective strength for the sake of bitterness and ego is not a union for UK based pilots.