Yes. It's just like smoking. Back in the 60's, the bad health effects weren't really understood....now, there is no excuse. Same with our contracts: back in the 90's we were pretty naive....now, there is no excuse. Whatever the company tries to 'bribe' the more junior pilots with, they will eventually take away. Either we learn from history or we will continue to descend to the level of an asian LCC. We are pretty close to that point now. All any of you need to focus on is simply this: any concessions from the pilots will mean the dollars taken from you and your families will be put straight into the pockets of our managers. THAT is the reason for the 'grinning idiot' photo every friday.