We should all thank Oz Ocker for so very effectively bringing to more people's attention the same point that Wiley tried to make in the thread that Oz Ocker told people to look at (or was it the thread that THAT thread told people to look at?). See
here
It's getting distressingly close to the day when some 'bright' bean counter will see the 'savings' that are to be made in puting some completely untrained button pusher into the seat of an airliner with permission (and the ability) to do nothing more than button push, ie, program the computers and possibly taxi the beast.
God help us all if/when that day arrives, because we'll all have lost our jobs (or the job will no longer be worth having) before the bodies start piling up sufficiently high to prove what a stupid move it was.