That is what results from having the worlds 'finest' management. I smell a corporate con job of historic proportions. Moving money between subsidiaries, deliberately being overcharged by other Swire companies. Murky facts regarding fuel hedging, complete opacity and unaccountably from managers who have limited exposure to aviation. This is the end game for CX. Set up for sale. It will all seem so obvious a few years from now. If any of you harbour any hopes as to CX being the career airline of your dreams, you will soon be relieved of that delusion. It is simply CX/Swire using a manufactured crisis to accomplish more cost cutting. Either stand firm now, or lay down forever.