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Old 6th Aug 2017, 15:28
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Lynx8
 
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For sure the guys did not crash the aircraft on purpose. We can all agree on this right?
Usually, in Human Factors related issues, the brain plays a tricky role mainly due to 3 reasons:
A) Visual illusions;
B) CFIT;
C) Automated mind reaction to a situation similar to another situation.

In the EK521 case A and B are excluded and hope we all agree on this.
Case C has played a big role IMHO regardless what really happened, regardless all the possible missing pilots interventions and regardless Boeing and EK documentations.

When we take off, we are obviously on the ground, and upon approaching to the lift off stage we have already taken hand off the Thrust Levers.
It is an automated mind reaction that we do on every flight. V1…hand off Thrust Levers…VR and lift off.
Next flight….. V1…hand off Thrust Levers…VR and lift off.
Next flight again...V1…hand off Thrust Levers…VR and lift off.
We have all done this for weeks, months and years in our aviation careers right?

In the EK521 case we can assume a solid possibility that, once on the ground and due to an imminent aircraft lift off, upon calling go-around, pressing TOGA bla bla bla, the “automated mind reaction” has played its role simply telling the arm to be removed from the Thrust Levers and to be placed on the control wheel.
Obviously there is not a justification and no one is trying to find excuses, but in 30+ years of flying experience, 20+ years in Flight safety and 12+ years as Cpt 777 experience and Training got some feeling that we are not too far from an additional Human Factor piece of the puzzle.
My humble suggestion during training and non-training flights has always been “If we Go-around at any stage make sure, whoever is PF, that his/her arm is on Thrust Levers and his/her arm is at 180 degrees angle fully extended. If PF's arm on Thrust Levers is not full extended until missed approach altitude is reached something might go terribly wrong.”
Last, but not least, in this occasion having trust at idle let the aircraft stall and stop near threshold 30R.
If it was set set only 50%-60% and left it there, for any other reasons, the aircraft would have stalled at a later stage probably into Mirdif....and let's stop it here.

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