Skytorque... Interesting comment, I remember teaching NDB holds, where the NDB was located on the field with no ATIS. i used to teach to call 'beacon outbound' on each hold then 'beacon outbound for the procedure RWY xx', but got picked up on this by a more senior instructor, in a sense he was correct, but circuit traffic and inbound and outbound traffic, would forget someone was in the hold.
That also makes me think are climbs or descents in the overhead ever required, surely the simplest way is to climb and set course with reference to a local area landmark or VRP, again rejoining on crosswind, downwind, base or finals, according to traffic. Climbing and descending in the overhead always seemed to me a good way to have a midair, as well as a waste of fuel and time.
Last edited by Homsap; 2nd Jul 2017 at 12:44.