Please please please can we either have this thread closed or can we leave ampan to carry on all by himself. We all have our views about this and no-one is going to change his or her mind. If we don't reply to ampan he or she has no on-one to argue with.
It's just like any discussion about the pilots' strike. All that happens is that heat and nastiness is generated as old wounds are opened (sorry for the mixed metaphor).