Gurnard... my statement was only in the fact that we sometimes had a hosty in our J31's for charters etc - most of the time it was just 2 drivers and pax sat by themselves, but we only had 30 or 45 min sectors and no cock door - just a dog eared curtain separating us from all those would be terror suspects down the back.. that in every case I can ever remember were nothing but charming and polite.... Oh for those heedy days again..