no no no,i personally think yyz would be an excellent route for the 3rd 330 as i dont think ac are comitted to the north of england,and ac could codeshare on the route as well also i think bd operating costs would be cheaper than that of ac,also hearing of lax from man but as i said before nobody really knows so its anyones guess,i can tell you one thing though,the pax love the service,the product is fantastic and one of the best around and the 4th 330 should be coming on line,lhr-tfs/tfn could be a possibility for a330 ops..