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Old 13th Jun 2017, 11:35
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This topic, transcending the peculiarities of stall recovery with the airbus family of a/c, notably the use of trim, raises the same issue over and over again relating to Uprt-Loc phenomenon which did not exist in the past.

The whole point, is how the crews can revert to " Back to basics" and with their situational awareness and visual cues they get from proper scanning and understanding from their instruments and basic pitch and power setting comprehension, do the right things, and save the day and instead of digging holes in the ground or splash at sea..

But what does " Back to basics" involve ?

For the previous generation of pilots, moving to the new generation of fully automated aircrafts, it meant applying their skills both mental and motor, to fly the aircraft the way they used to fly a Constellation or a 707 or a DC8 or aDC9

They had an extensive experience with "Classic" jets they had flown for decades and they were able to step back into known territory,

They successfully terminated the flight managing situations that their automated systems were unable to cope with.

In 1995 pilots flying the new generation aircrafts still had extensive experience with the older jets

Ten to fifteen years after this was not the case anymore. We saw the advent of a new generation of pilots trained and rated with the new automated aircrafts lacking the experience of their predecessors.

To them, "Back to Basics" has no meaning at all, they cannot revert to "Basics" they dont have.

The rule "Back to basics" is no longer applicable
In case of need, we find pilots trained on the new generation of aircrafts having to deal with scenarios that were the daily bread of older generation of pilots and here they are clueless.

They find themselves in situations they are unable to either comprehend or analyse, which however "basic" they could have been for the older generation,
have no meaning for them, hence the numerous accidents.

This is the major issue involving crews which have never known neither flown the old generatuon of aircrafts.

How newly introduced Uprt-Loc training, involving limited on air exercises and sim sessions will solve the problem escapes my common sense and understanding.....

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