Changing logbook from FAA to EASA

[selfin]

ersa,

your missing the point, its highly likely that the 2 people in the cockpit have both logged PIC.

In general four possible logging rules can be constructed:

1. each certificated pilot logs pilot-in-command,
2. only the acting pilot-in-command logs pilot-in-command,
3. only the certificated pilot manipulating the controls, not acting as pilot-in-command, logs pilot-in-command, or,
4. neither pilot logs pilot-in-command.

The first rule is permissible under US regulations subject to one of two conditions in 14 CFR 61.51 being satisfied, otherwise either rule 2 or 3 applies. The first rule is not permissible for EASA licensing purposes despite the absence of an implementing rule stating so much. Which of rules 2 and 3 are acceptable to EASA, or more accurately, to the competent authority?

Is EASA really taking the view that neither person is entitled to log pilot-in-command time? That would be an absurd position.

Ive seen many log books from the FAA, in EASA it won't be accepted.

There is no question that a safety pilot not acting as pilot-in-command may not log pilot-in-command time for EASA purposes.

What evidence exists in the logbook for a third-party, a person auditing the logbook for example, to determine whether the safety pilot did or did not act as pilot-in-command? Short of the holder recording his own name in his own personal flying logbook, in compliance with 14 CFR 61.51(b)(1)(v) [requirement to record safety pilot's name], there is likely to be insufficient information in the logbook for this question to be answered (61.51 does not require name of PIC to be recorded). There is therefore a possibility that both pilots could attempt to claim pilot-in-command time for EASA purposes, but the solution ought not to be that neither pilot is permitted to recording PIC time. If the competent authority adopted that position then I expect a judicial review would be warranted.