A good few years ago I joined the local branch of the Aircrew Association who held their meetings in a private room at a pub. Without exception they were all WW2 RAF and would spend all evening, once a month, in fond mutual reminiscence. The only time they spoke to me during the two meetings I attended was when I was given the 'honour' of drawing the winner of the monthly prize. At least I didn't have to sell the tickets, or whatever led to the draw.