Originally Posted by
Older and Wiser
Maybe we should stop beating round the bush.
The operators let down procedure clearly shows Black Rock at 282'
It would have also been visible on Radar and would have been a waypoint in the system. There is no reason not to know that there was a big lump of rock with a light on it that was 282' AMSL. It is the start point of a company procedure not the point to be at 200'.
This is all very sad, who knows if the pilot had reacted immediately when the Winch Operator first called for a right turn would it have been enough; rather than the PF questioning the turn request.
13 seconds between the first (calm) warning of an island and the impact. Heading change completed and confirmed 10secs after this warning. Final shouted warning 3 seconds before impact. Rapid control inputs as that happened. The front crew had no idea what they were reacting to, what actions were required, or how immediately it was required. They reacted as they should to any change in heading without realising the emergency facing them. A fly up command may have been "better" and less confusing to the pilot but we have no right second guessing them.
The flir image would not have given good depth-perception or rate of closure... unlikely that the rear crew realised how close it was either to begin with. Only ten seconds later it was apparant that things were not good.
The world was against them from the start of that 13 seconds unfortunately. They nearly made it. So nearly.