In amongst the "poor me" Manchester comments about Virgin's planned winter programme, has anyone stopped to consider that a) they may be short of either aircraft or crew resources or both for reasons including but not limited to continued re-fleeting - just look at the impact that's had at Finnair - and b) in deciding where to cut, route profitability will be a primary factor in decision making alongside (presumably) protecting their LHR slots. If the MAN routes were the cash cows that you'd believe from reading some of these comments, they would either not be making these harsh cuts or Delta would be swinging back in to operate them under the joint venture. The fact that neither is happening speaks volumes.