No was not CTC, so I guess if your figure includes top up payments for that it would make sense as I say most months I was taking home between 3.5 and 3.8 a month. I went to BA, heard about guys getting quick commands so thought I would join them, unfortunately I am now sat at the bottom of a seniority list longer than a phone book with no movement expected any time soon, still as the saying goes you win some and you loose some.