Kaptin M, you really are a nasty person you know. Was the atmosphere becoming a bit too moderate for you? Did you want to wind up the kids who did not want to support the immoral, unworkable and selective recruitment ban by unconcious name calling and selective quotation of facts. I have some bad news for you, the skirmish is over - notwithstanding os actions still in place. And Wiz, other than FEs how about up to ten times what those others earn for unsocial hours. Lets move on.