Winter storms in USA

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Originally Posted by Curtain rod

cxorcist,

I think you missed the point on: "The only thing I know about man-made global warming is that there ain't no money in denying it!" Of course, the opposite is true, for those doing the denying, anyway.

As for your understanding of "science" (to copy your use of quotation marks, indicating to me your disrespect and/or disbelief in the scientific process), quoted from Skeptic.com:

1. In science, a theory doesn't mean a guess or an opinion.
2. A scientific theory is an established body of knowledge (e.g. germ theory, theory of evolution)
3. Science is a disciplined process for testing hypotheses. It progresses slowly but inexorably as new discoveries build on old ones.
4. Science doesn't claim to have the truth: Science reached provisional conclusions based on the best available evidence and it is always ready to change those conclusions if new, better evidence comes along.
5. Scientific studies are repeated, and they are either confirmed or discredited. A body of evidence gradually accumulates to the point that experts in the field can reach a consensus.
6. Science makes mistakes, but a self-correcting system is in place: It is a collaborative effort, studies are peer-reviewed and scientists scrutinize each others' work.
7. Science can be relied upon to give us knowledge that works and can be used to make accurate predictions.

If you, or anyone, has any new, valid evidence supporting a hypothesis that contradicts any scientific consensus, like the ones about atomic theory or how man-made CO2 emissions are causing global warming, please provide that evidence for testing by the world's scientists of all countries, religions, ages, etc., because they want to make science better. However, that's only for valid evidence, with properly collected and verifiable data and repeatable experimentation, and not opinions, preferences, anecdotes, personal beliefs, ignorant misrepresentations or discredited interpretations (such as junk science).

Bonus Ted Talk, just for you. You're welcome!
https://www.ted.com/talks/julia_gale...wrong#t-685637

Ummm yeah .....

http://burtrutan.com/downloads/EngrCritiqueCAGW-v4o3.pdf

Numbers came out similar to mine fwiw.

Trying to extrapolate data far beyond the ability to measure is not science; there is nothing scientific about the CO2 myth.

First it was the dire warnings about change and then it became the RATE of change is greater than anything in human history (also baseless). If your radioisotope dating has a tolerance of 5% -- which might be really really good -- that's still 500 years over 10000 years (either of which is less than the blink of an eye over either terrestrial history or even evolutionary life history).

And I doubt you'll find much really really accurate temperature data from 500 years ago -- even in the inhabited regions of our planet -- not to mention the vastly unexplored ones.

So the bottom line is we don't have a clue. It's ok not to have a clue but not ok to scam money or hurt people as a result of not having a clue.

I always found it interesting watching their propaganda videos where they show a power plant with billowing white plumes from the stacks and lamenting the demise of the human race.

The billowing white plume in actuality being steam -- plain old water vapor -- which is a result of the process used by scrubbers to remove REAL pollutants (like SO2 and various forms of NOx -- as well as some degree of particulates although these are often filtered in a more effective fashion) from the effluent of power plants. Actually doing something good for the environment.

The climate change hoax has nothing to do with science; only a few hucksters claiming it to be. Climate has been changing since the earth was formed and will continue to do so long after we are gone. We can either whine about it or develop energy sources (of all kinds to include nuclear, fusion, and fossils) to help us deal with what nature throws at us. She do what she do.

I don't know a lot of these hucksters who preach their mantra from anything but large climate climate controlled comfortable quarters. Perhaps while sipping their chilled wine and complaining the filet is undercooked. I'd be much more likely to believe someone who has actually built something.