MPN11, I can empathise with you there. Some 20 years before the Marchetti incident, same area, same flight information service, on Qualifying Cross Country, straight in to IMC and right above Rochester airport. The controller said 'everyone keep a good lookout' , which seemed daft to me as I was in cloud. My thoughts were about the 2minute rule which I had been told was all you could expect to survive in cloud with no rating. Lucky for me that day, a quick 180 and what seemed like an age and I popped out of it, to land 15 mins later to a v surprised CFI, who had thought I'd be a few hours!