Originally Posted by
knobbycobby
DragonMan,
What Alan is alluding to is that 787 pilots will have to fly 30% more without the night credits on 4 pilot sectors. Which are the current routes for the 787 namely MEL-LAX, PER-LHR.
Also receiving no overtime on ultra long haul routes removes the pay premium for the company. So the higher hourly rate(with no overtime) is still cheaper for QF than a lower hourly rate that includes overtime.
It's only if the 787 flies to Asia or short sectors(2/3 pilot) that the balance returns to the pilots favour.
Alan knew the 787 was an ultra long haul aeroplane and hence he made those facts known to the ASX(After the EA) which the financial review reported. It's considerably more than a 1% saving.
As others have stated, considerable pay and work sacrifices were made in the 787 EA.
As I see it AIPA are just ensuring that the crew rest meets the requirements of the agreed EA.
Pilots flying a 19 hour TOD through the night are going to need it to be satisfactory!
Regardless If your SH, LH, or a pilot who's yet to join Qantas, you want it to be acceptable if/when you or others fly it or not.
I hear you however the hourly rate for the 787 is higher than say the present rate for the 747 by about 10% so he is paying for those increased stick hours. IMO the bottom line is the cost of the pilots per seat per sector and that is basically unchanged. The other thing is that with no overtime people will be more inclined to go sick for the duration of a pattern with a medical certificate hence no pattern protection. Only time will tell how this pans out.