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Old 18th Feb 2017, 03:54
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Oh dear ...

While acknowledging that some of the ancient Types flying do have aileron vices, anything of recent design should be far better behaved.

For interest, the current design standard requirements to be found at -

(a) FAR 23.201

(b) FAR 23.203

(c) FAR 23.207

and, I daresay, the EASA words will be somewhat similar ...

Comments, such as in this thread, regarding the dangers of using aileron (with a caveat for the few old ragbag - but delightful - machines still around), in essence, are nonsense.

What the design and certification fraternity would prefer to see is

(a) avoid the stall

(b) if you can't manage (a), then stall

(c) subject to AFM/POH guidance, initial action is to unstall by unloading the wings ie reduce backstick inputs

(d) then, when the thing is definitely unstalled, roll and pitch back to normal flight while adjusting thrust settings.

Unfortunately, the operational folks still have overwhelming hangups about minimum height loss. Progressively, post AF 447 changes to industry practices, this will change.

Centaurus' thoughts are on track .. and that from a chap who was brought up right in the middle of the old practices. Rudder should never be used to pick up anything .. only to prevent further yaw which, in itself, can lead to undesirable excitement.
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