I guess I am flogging a dead horse, but to repeat what I wrote shortly after the accident, I still feel the title of this thread to be inappropriate, suggesting as it does that the loss of the Hunter outweighs the loss of 11 lives. I appreciate that the thread may well have been started before the OP was aware of the consequences of the crash, but perhaps the title could have been amended in the light of events. 'Nuff said.