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Old 4th Feb 2017, 08:56
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Yonosoy Marinero
 
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Finally, it is extreme scientific arrogance to be able to claim full knowledge about climate changes, merely by measuring (often with local inaccuracies) weather and climate conditions over a period of less than a lifetime, when climate has been in existence for billions of years.
Hmm. Scientists are not arrogant (the good ones). They publish their findings and subject them to peer review. Not all their peers are going to agree, but in the long run, large amounts of data and studies do indicate trends and consolidate beliefs.
The fact that many of us are uneducated on the subject doesn't mean that we should not believe what they say just because we don't like what they say, albeit it is a very primal reaction to just dismiss and deny things we don't want to be true. Nor should we ignore the underlying message because they do not all agree on the details.


And while there is disagreement on the projected effects of global warming, there is a consensus that the effect will be damaging. Just how much is what's still being debated.
The more data there is, the better the guess becomes.

But even if you're an optimist, if you have been told that you might have cancer and that it could be caused by your smoking, would you wait until it's confirmed to try to quit?


Weather data has been collected for more than a lifetime. Accurate data has been recorded for over a century. No matter how deep you want to delve into the debate, the deniers don't seem to want to offer an alternate explanation for the sharp rise in temperatures since the beginning of the industrial era about 70 years ago, nor do they want to explain the linear correlation between such increase and the increase in atmospheric CO2. Coincidence maybe?
The frequency and magnitude of severe weather events is also higher than ever recorded.

We will all be long dead... and the oceans will have risen no more than a few millimeters, and the temps globally will have changed less than 1 degree.
The oceans are rising at around 1/8 inch every year. That's over 3mm.
The average global temperatures have risen by 0.8°C since I was born. With any luck, I can expect to live the same amount of time again and, extrapolating the current rate of increase, they will have risen to over 1.5°C by the time I kick the bucket.

There is one rogue nation and the largest state sponsor of terrorism test launching ballistic missiles and developing nuclear weapons.
When did Saudi Arabia launch a ballistic missile?

except for those evil oil companies who keep the buildings warm, the lights on, and the transporters moving. How dare they make a profit! Corporate pigs!
A staunch defender of corporate lobbies, I see. I find it a bit rich when you take every opportunity to point out how greedy and self-interested your own employers are.
But otherwise, I'm sure Trump has a valid reason for defunding climate research and erasing all the climate data. He probably just needs more space to store his tweets. He's "like, a really smart person" after all.

I don't want to pay a single penny to this crackpot science which admits it cannot "fix the problem" without sending us all back to living in cold, dark caves where we won't even be allowed to light a wood fire for fear of the dreaded CO2 molecule.
you will pay plenty of pennies because of global warming, and so will your kids. Whether you believe in it or not, the macro economic and social repercussions of global warming will be borne by a vast majority of the World population. Starting with the around 40% that lives near the coast where the initial nefarious effects are staring to be felt.

Oh, and if you bothered to look into it a little, no one but a few hard core hippies is seriously considering a solution that curtails global economic growth and prevents you from living with all the comforts you currently enjoy. It's all about solutions which favor sustainability, efficiency or the diversification of energy sources. If anything, they create potential for economic growth and a fairer distribution of resouces rather than the concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a few who control the global energy reserves and would like it to stay that way.
That said, I'm sure you love to see the Sauds fly around in their gold plated private jumbo jets. They deserve it after all, and it's not like some of that money funds terror groups... No, that's only Iran, right?
And it's perfectly fine to have an Oil tycoon head the US foreign affairs. I'm sure it's because he's so good at international diplomacy and nothing else.

Your rhetoric is indicative of your understanding of the issue and your level of progressive and inquisitive thinking. You bring nothing to the debate other than your unshakable belief that it's all false because you say so and want so. Facts are so yesterday.

But whatever floats your boat. It's all a conspiracy. Fake news. Hail Trump. Believe him and no one else. He says it like it is. He is the messiah.

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