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Old 3rd Feb 2017, 09:29
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magicmick
 
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Good Morning

Thank-you so much for the replies, Rob I agree that the JOC should be an orientation course and not anything deeper but because EASA/ CAA have not got a grip on it then FTOs can create any syllabus that they like with as many sim hrs as they like and charge accordingly.

I recently spoke with a pilot recruitment officer for one of the airlines mentioned above that used to insist on a JOC with a minimum of 16hrs sim time and they said that there is only a requirement to complete a JOC and there are no minimum time requirements. They did however say that if they had to choose between two candidates for one place on an assessment day they might look at JOC sim hrs to differentiate between them.

The Kura, CTC and WA offerings are not JOCs, they are combined MCC/ JOCs plus some more stuff on top and cost upwards of £7500 plus selection course charges with no guarantee of recommendation to an airline, as always past performance is no guarantee of future success, all the risk is squarely on the candidate. In an ideal world I suppose the selection phase would be free of charge and there would be a deferred payment of the large course fee where the candidate would complete the course and the fee would not be payable until the candidate had found a flying job. That way the training organisation would be further motivated to assist the individual and stay in close touch with them.

Sadly we do not live in an ideal world. I have just seen that Kylie Minogue is single again, perhaps things are looking up after all.

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