Thanks. In the cirrus can make it there and back nil wind with hour of reserves...not including an approach. But il go only in good weather. Single engine over water is not something i would have thought about befoee but with BRS and life raft and quite new aircraft, and the fact they are always ferried from USA I think 4 hrs over water acceptable. Also gold coast (base) to LHI only 9 mins extra compared to going via cfs today (avplan). Thanks for advice every one.