OK, Kite, I think you are peeved at those who took the P2F or early SSTR stuff just before your time and allowed that ball to start rolling. In that case, I agree with you and you have my sympathy; they aided a change to the system, leaped on by the locos, that will be difficult to roll back. If that is what you mean, then that's fair. I have seen too many people blame the generation that didn't have anything to do with it, though. Presumably they expected an industry wide strike against new terms, but that would have been illegal and cost family men their jobs, and would then have enabled locos to drive the conditions even lower and even faster by recruiting more desperate people. That'd have been bad for everyone.